Truth is Rob Lowe was a notorious diva and very difficult to work with on the set of The West Win

I do believe he hated working on that show (despite it bringing new life to his career and a lot of critical acclaim for his work on it) but he also was notoriously difficult on the set after it became a big hit. His ego only got worse with each season, and he was a diva. Him and Martin Sheen didn’t get along at all.

Rob Lowe believed the show would fail once he left and believed he was why people were tuning in.

However, he would never acknowledge all the rumors and gossip that’s floated around for 20+ years about him.

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by Anonymousreply 189August 19, 2023 7:04 AM

[quote]Him and Martin Sheen didn’t get along at all.

Him didn't? Oh dear.

by Anonymousreply 1August 10, 2023 4:26 PM

Makes sense. Never became a Cruise, Leo, Brad, or Clooney and resented the the fuck out of it.

by Anonymousreply 2August 10, 2023 4:27 PM

He derailed his own career (accidentally) with that sex tape. Of course the tape getting out there was not his fault but he was at fault for even filming his sexcapades that night. I think people forget how that was so scandalous and hurt his career. Many didn't wanna hire him after that debacle, especially when it came out one of the girls was 16 (although he didn't know that). I do not think he would ever have had the career Cruise or Pitt etc. had but he could have had a better film career potentially if he were smart enough to not make a sex tape. He was getting that Hollywood push prior to it, and a lot of it has to do with his movie star great looks.

TV is what gave his career new life but he seemed to resent it all.

And he was a messy guy, not only speaking about the sex tape in the 80s, but in 2008 that messy lawsuit from his nanny and then him suing some of his other employees. A mess.

by Anonymousreply 3August 10, 2023 4:38 PM

Isn’t he a Trump supporter?

by Anonymousreply 4August 10, 2023 4:41 PM

Meh. He was an asshole diva on the West Wing when the other cast members were just as, if not more, important to the success of the show. Mostly it was the writing.

Lowe did cop to his questionable behavior as a young actor. He had to, it was caught on tape. He has addressed it many times over many years. Google is your friend, stupid OP. He had some bust up with household staff that didn't go over very well but one at-home scandal in all the years he's lived here doesn't mean much.

More important than Lowe's work is Lowe the good neighbor and all around good guy in Santa Barbara. We love him here, he pitched in during the fires and mudslides and he's not a dick. He's a nice guy, which is more than we can say for some people who live around here.

by Anonymousreply 5August 10, 2023 4:42 PM

My understanding is that "The West Wing" was pitched to him as a starring vehicle for Lowe. But, in reality, ended up an ensemble with Martin Sheen the star.

Many members of the ensemble shined brighter than Lowe ever did, such as Allison Janney, John Spencer, Bradley Whitford, and Richard Schiff.

Lowe and his part really was inconsequential, relatively.

by Anonymousreply 6August 10, 2023 4:42 PM

He's not a Trump supporter, he's a Democrat.

He supported Arnold for Governor because Arnold is a friend of his and he stood by him.

by Anonymousreply 7August 10, 2023 4:44 PM

This guy needs to be thanking the gods every ducking day that he has ANY career after fucking little girls on video and it coming out in the 90s and him surviving it. He’s defied all odds and has managed to get a pass and come out of it smelling like a rose. He has no fucking right to complain about anything. He may seem really nice, but there’s no doubt he’s vain and craves constant fame and attention.

by Anonymousreply 8August 10, 2023 4:46 PM

r5 now you live in California? Over the past 24 hours you claimed Brooklyn (its in your posting history) but now its Santa Barbara

by Anonymousreply 9August 10, 2023 4:47 PM

R4 yes he is. His sons are big Trunpsters too.

by Anonymousreply 10August 10, 2023 4:47 PM

WHO CARES IF HE IS REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT???

And being Republican isn't being a Trumper. Many Republicans hated Trump. He is his own breed

by Anonymousreply 11August 10, 2023 4:48 PM

Nope, it's always been Santa Barbara for many years now and I've never claimed to live in Brooklyn (eww) nor in London (I love London). I was famously in the Costner threads discussing Santa Barbara (or more accurately Carpinteria) last week.

Why are you lying R9?

by Anonymousreply 12August 10, 2023 4:50 PM

R11 it gives insight into his personality.

by Anonymousreply 13August 10, 2023 4:50 PM

R12 there are crazy people here, I recognized your posts immediately. That poster is nuts.

by Anonymousreply 14August 10, 2023 4:51 PM

r12 I am not. You claimed Brooklyn on the NY thread. Maybe it's from one of your other accounts linked to the same internet provider from the same location.

by Anonymousreply 15August 10, 2023 4:52 PM

r14 another one of your accounts replying to yourself. When does the crazy weird shit like this end? Where is the job????

by Anonymousreply 16August 10, 2023 4:53 PM

I hated the West Wing too, so we have that in common, but Rob’s acting was quite anonymous in it. And he was on his way to being an angry, rich, white Conservative at that time, so the the show’s dewy Liberal politics during Bush era lead by erstwhile neighbourhood dad Martin Sheen would have got on his tits.

So Rob saw his more talented costars get all the glory and had to walk and talk those Sorkinisms for years.

by Anonymousreply 17August 10, 2023 4:53 PM

Lowe also had an ego on Parks and Rec. In 2011 he submitted himself for Lead actor in a comedy for that series even though he was told to submit himself as supporting because he was truly SUPPORTING. He was only in a scene here and there every episode for most of that season yet his ego would not allow himself to be anything but the lead.

by Anonymousreply 18August 10, 2023 4:55 PM

He's a Democrat - he used to famously show up at the DNC and was quite politically active.

I don't have any idea why the crazy person insists I'm several other people. I only have one account, I use it all the time. When I lived in New York (a thousand years ago) it certainly wasn't in Brooklyn.

by Anonymousreply 19August 10, 2023 4:56 PM

He's been on several shows where he stayed 3 to 4 years (the Sally Field Programme among them) and when he didn't become the star of the show, he left.

by Anonymousreply 20August 10, 2023 4:58 PM

The West Wing was sold to Lowe as a starring lead vehicle, but he was co-leading with Martin Sheen. They were both the leads, not just him. He was resentful. Add onto that, the supporting cast were all amazing on it and got a lot of praise etc. I think he was pissed they were all stealing his thunder on HIS show (in his mind). He was a massive diva with high demands and didn't get along with most of the cast and crew, despite him always trying to play up the sweet guy role

Stockard Channing was also great on that show.

by Anonymousreply 21August 10, 2023 4:59 PM

I read his autobiography. He's very bitter about how his role in The Outsiders was whittled down from the original script.

And don't forget he was also on the Sally Field Program!

by Anonymousreply 22August 10, 2023 4:59 PM

wikipedia says he has been an "independent" since 2006.

by Anonymousreply 23August 10, 2023 5:00 PM

I've always liked Rob Lowe, I think he's well spoken, and he has had a career resurgence through TV, and most actors, including him, would love to take that if a movie career didn't pan out. He had a successful book and does commercials too. His new show Unstable with his son is funny also. Talking about The West Wing, from 1999-2006, is now 17 years behind us. Rob's done Parks and Recreation since, we was great in Thank You for Smoking, Behind the Candelabra, Brothers and Sisters, 9-1-1 Lone Star, just to name a few. If you look at his combined filmography for movies, TV and voice, it's quite impressive. Should we all be so lucky.

No hate at all for Rob, and that gorgeous face. He fucked up when he was younger, he's admitted it, and knows it. He knows he got lucky. Please don't paint him as a die hard Trumpster b/c he's not.

by Anonymousreply 24August 10, 2023 5:00 PM

The West Wing credits were Lowe, alphabetical order, and Sheen.

by Anonymousreply 26August 10, 2023 5:01 PM

I never found him hot. Not bad looking at all, cute for a minute, but never sexy or hot.

by Anonymousreply 27August 10, 2023 5:04 PM

His best film was About Last Night and he’s not even the best thing in it.

by Anonymousreply 28August 10, 2023 5:04 PM

One of the few dvds I still own r28. I have always loved that movie. It's a great chick flick. I never watched the remake

by Anonymousreply 29August 10, 2023 5:08 PM

He was on The View a few months ago and Whoopi went on and on about how everyone in Hollywood, especially other actors, should be thankful for Tom Cruise for saving the movie industry with Top Gun Maverick, because everything was flopping badly up to that point, and it reminded me of how Lowe referred to Cruise as nothing more than robotic back in 2011.

by Anonymousreply 30August 10, 2023 5:13 PM

Martin Sheen is known as a mensch.

Did the sex tapes really derail his career? Seems like others have gotten away with worse.

He was one of many pretty boys and maybe he just didn't make the cut. He wasn't any more or less talented than anyone else, IMO. The "cut" is based on factors other than talent.

by Anonymousreply 31August 10, 2023 5:15 PM

r31 yes, it did. This was 1980s America. You must have not been around to experience it.

by Anonymousreply 32August 10, 2023 5:17 PM

Melissa Gilbert wrote about him in her autobiography.

Rob and Melissa met when he was 14 and she was 17. They were together for a long time and were totally in love and in 1986 he asked her to marry him. So far so good right? Well, everything was great until the day Melissa told Rob she was pregnant. "Finally, with [Rob's] voice trembling and tears in his eyes he said very softly, 'I can't be a father,' Before I could respond, he said, 'I can't be a husband. I'm so sorry,'"

by Anonymousreply 33August 10, 2023 5:18 PM

I'm sure that Rob Lowe thought he ought to BE Tom Cruise but he never had that kind of juice. He found a niche in television and good for him. He's had great success. His sleeping with that teenaged

More importantly to me is that he's a good neighbor. He's lived up here for years and he's very committed to our community. He's not a fair weather "visitor" but a real part of the town and area, just as his whole family is part of this community. He may be a diva on the set but in real life he's a terrific guy and everyone likes him.

If they don't like him on the set - meh - why would we care?

by Anonymousreply 34August 10, 2023 5:22 PM

R9, et al is truly bonkers. Here are some of their posts from the Blind Items thread. Seriously r9, you exhibit signs of schizophrenia. Seek help. And apologies for the formatting, I keep forgetting how to do quotes. These are posts where r9 claimed he was law enforcement and knew our IP addresses. Seriously deranged stuff.

You’re an offender.

Nope r56. I just know who you are. Living off mommy. Unemployed. And a lot more can be said after running a background check on you. Tread lightly.

R58 only when you’re a law enforcer there are many ways. ☕️ now go get a job. Help mom out.

And the pièce de résistance:

R66 why do you have so many accounts?

Sweetie, when you’re a cop and you contact the person/people behind a site like this about criminal activity taking place on the site which could result in a lawsuit for the site host, they are more than willing to oblige and hand over any info needed. When you used a credit card you left a paper trail.

Oh, and the Reddit admins are even more willing to help.

by Anonymousreply 35August 10, 2023 5:24 PM

Sorry - I dropped that sentence about the teenager.

He and a friend fucked some teenaged groupie. I think they spanked her and fucked her and there was a video. He did pay a huge price for it, in cash to the girl but professionally too. He eventually managed to work his way back into television and the occasional movie role.

by Anonymousreply 36August 10, 2023 5:25 PM

Oh yeah, I remember r9 - what a fucking batshit looney toons she turned out to be.

I told her go right ahead and post whatever she claimed to have on me (knowing she had nothing) and of course she never posted a fucking thing.

R9 is a fucking moron, lying sack of shit loser.

by Anonymousreply 37August 10, 2023 5:29 PM

[quote]So far so good right? Well, everything was great until the day Melissa told Rob she was pregnant. "Finally, with [Rob's] voice trembling and tears in his eyes he said very softly, 'I can't be a father,' Before I could respond, he said, 'I can't be a husband. I'm so sorry,'"

It's disappointing to realize he learned nothing from "Schoolboy Father," his Afterschool Special about an accidental teen pregnancy.

by Anonymousreply 38August 10, 2023 5:30 PM

r34 you claimed such upthread already. Why are you repeating yourself? Switching accounts doesnt change that you are now just repeating yourself. I doubt you are his neighbor.

by Anonymousreply 39August 10, 2023 5:30 PM

Rob Lowe has had many blind items about him that make him sound arrogant, an egomaniac and difficult. He is also very vain and can come off stuck up. Here is a blind from 2019

"This former A+ list mostly movie actor turned trouble getting work turned A- list mostly television actor who also does a ton of commercials is filming a new show overseas. He hates it. While the rest of the cast mingles with visitors to the set, our actor hops into a SUV he bought with his own funds and has someone drive him to his trailer fifteen minutes away where he stays until he is needed for the next shot even if he only has time to be in his trailer for five minutes before heading back.

Rob Lowe"

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by Anonymousreply 40August 10, 2023 5:34 PM

He was one the members of the 1980s "Brat Pack".

His career turned out marginally better than the the others.

by Anonymousreply 41August 10, 2023 5:34 PM

Back in the 80s a sex tape was a huge scandal, if you were around back then you can remember what it was like.

These days, guys in their 20s film themselves having sex and nobody gives a shit but in the 80s it was a different world.

by Anonymousreply 42August 10, 2023 5:35 PM

Actually, Lowe's neighbors kind of hate him in Montecito.

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by Anonymousreply 43August 10, 2023 5:35 PM

[quote Him and Martin Sheen didn’t get along at all.

Is English your fourth language?

by Anonymousreply 44August 10, 2023 5:39 PM

r43 Correct, which is exactly why that one person on more than one account repeating himself is beginning to annoy me. His REAL neighbors over the years have complained about him, not praised him. It is cute that we have a DLer here who pretends he is rich enough to rub shoulders with wealthy stars, but it is not so.

by Anonymousreply 45August 10, 2023 5:39 PM

r44 it is my second language

by Anonymousreply 46August 10, 2023 5:39 PM

Cunt is R44's first language.

by Anonymousreply 47August 10, 2023 5:40 PM

Damn there are some loons on here today (hah as opposed to other days). Is it a full moon or something? R39, before you pile on with the loons, use Trolldar. I did, and saw OP at r34 and other posts looks genuine. Of course, you could be r9 as well clearing your cookies and posting from another account.

Are you now going to threaten me with arrest?

by Anonymousreply 48August 10, 2023 5:40 PM

R9, I'm deeply troubled that you find my posts repetitive, how can I go on? I live here, many people do - believe it or not.

You otoh are a cheap poseur, issue idle and foolish threats and are a figure of fun to real DLers.

I still only post from one account, hun.

R9, why do you lie so much?

by Anonymousreply 50August 10, 2023 5:42 PM

R50 you lie nonstop. Get a grip. Get a job. And get off DL.

by Anonymousreply 51August 10, 2023 5:47 PM

p.s. R48, I am R34 and I am not the OP. I like Rob Lowe and he has a good reputation in this area. Especially after all that he did for the fires and mudslides and our first responders, he could get elected Mayor - easily.

Again, if he was a bitch-diva on the sets of television shows we don't really care about that. If some neighbors don't like him, we don't really care about that either. He's a good guy.

Attention r9 - I may, indeed, have repeated myself AGAIN. Oh the huge manatee.

by Anonymousreply 52August 10, 2023 5:47 PM

Originally the president was only going to be a recurring character appearing on maybe 8 shows a year.

But as often happens with series, actors who are decent people get more to do so after the pilot the president became a regular.

Still it must have been hard to be the biggest name at the start, but by the time the first few episodes aired it was clear that the rest of the cast was acting rings around you.

Plus, it was stupid to think he was going to be the star when he was offered his choice of two roles. That should have told Lowe that this was going to be an ensemble piece--otherwise they would have just offered him the undisputed lead. (He was given the choice to play Sam or Josh.)

by Anonymousreply 53August 10, 2023 5:48 PM

r41 because of his physical appearance. He was always the prettiest of the bunch, including the females.

Demi Moore and him were fucking in real life while shooting About Last Night.

by Anonymousreply 54August 10, 2023 5:50 PM

It was the 16 year old who stole the tape but she wasn’t actually on the tape that Al Goldstein from screw magazine played on his public access show.

The 16 year old he hooked up with got into a 21 and over club with a fake ID.

by Anonymousreply 55August 10, 2023 5:52 PM

Never watched the show which like so much network television strikes me as another time killer on the way to the grave. Find Lowe boring, unsexy and untalented.

by Anonymousreply 56August 10, 2023 5:54 PM

There are two sex tapes. The one with the 16 year old isn't around, for obvious reasons. The sex tape all over the internet is the second video where everyone is of age

by Anonymousreply 57August 10, 2023 5:55 PM

r55 the tape with the 16 year old was destroyed after all the legal stuff took place

by Anonymousreply 58August 10, 2023 5:55 PM

Demi Moore fucked most of the Brat Pack. The only one she didn't fuck was James Spader

by Anonymousreply 59August 10, 2023 5:56 PM

R56, it's actually a great show with loads of wonderful performances. Lowe was good but the rest of the cast was better, really.

by Anonymousreply 60August 10, 2023 5:57 PM

Lowe got by with his good looks.

by Anonymousreply 61August 10, 2023 5:59 PM

r56 must be a Gen Z person because network tv has had many great shows that are good tv. Gen Z thinks you need to hear the word fuck every 10 seconds with gratuitous nudity and sex for a show to be good.

Rob Lowe and Amy Poehler didn't get along on Parks and Rec and barely ever interacted unless in a scene together. Supposedly he was trying to get his character to become the lead of the show, but that was not happening.

by Anonymousreply 62August 10, 2023 6:01 PM

He has a podcast and I listened to an episode with, I think Martin Short or Lorne Michaels. Anyway, Rob came across as a total social climber, so much so that the guest jokingly asked Rob to stop asking him about his famous friends. I was embarrassed for him and turned off by his shallow personality.

by Anonymousreply 63August 10, 2023 6:07 PM

R52, apologies,I was referring to you as the Other Poster, not the Original Poster (creator of the thread). R9 and r51 are the same loon, accusing everyone he doesn’t like of being jobless and living in their mother’s basement. No doubt he’s projecting. It makes for a much quieter, nicer, and smarter perusing experience.

R60, you nailed it perfectly. I watched the show when it originally came out and there were so many amazing performances on the show that I felt Lowe couldn’t keep up. I wasn’t surprised when he left. He’s a good actor, not a great actor, and was way out of his league in comparison to the rest of the cast, who were all great.

by Anonymousreply 64August 10, 2023 6:07 PM

Hah, in my first paragraph at r64, I meant to include the following before the last sentence: block them both, they’re the same person.

by Anonymousreply 65August 10, 2023 6:08 PM

Girls! Girls!

YOU'RE BOTH TEDIOUS FUCKING CUNTS! STOP HIJACKING THIS THREAD! GO SOMEWHERE AND BORE EACH OTHER TO (LITERAL) DEATH!!!

by Anonymousreply 66August 10, 2023 6:21 PM

Apparently this former A+ list mostly movie actor from back in the day turned A- list mostly television actor who bounces around cherry picking projects was ticked off this week. His agent forgot to tell the actor he was not top billed in a recent movie. No matter the part was supporting, our actor was under the impression he was top billed. He was pissed.

Rob Lowe/How To Be A Latin Lover

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by Anonymousreply 67August 10, 2023 6:32 PM

R66, are you the both sides troll? JK, but you should be addressing only the troll at r9, who’s infamously hijacked a number of threads by pretending to be law enforcement and supposedly having an inside connection with Muriel. The rest of us just want to talk West Wing.

by Anonymousreply 68August 10, 2023 6:34 PM

Rob, of course, has a very different perspective on his West Wing experience:

"Whenever I share my stories, people are like, 'I will never share my own stories again,'" Lowe continued. "They would make your hair stand up, and there's some of them I wrote. I shared some of them in my book, but I purposely didn't share half of the other ones because it would make the people involved look so bad that I didn't want to do it to them. So, I did not have a good experience."

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by Anonymousreply 69August 10, 2023 6:37 PM

He was fucking Elizabeth Perkins throughout the filming of About Last Night

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by Anonymousreply 70August 10, 2023 6:43 PM

r69 that is his ego telling him he is being undervalued. He was a bitter betty because he thought the show would be 100% about him but it was more an ensemble with two leads. He hated that everyone else was doing better than him and blames everyone else for it.

by Anonymousreply 71August 10, 2023 6:44 PM

Is there a word for a male diva? Does miva sound too much like mulva? Why yes, that is the second Seinfeld reference today. Too much Crackle. I don't know how to describe this A list mostly television actor. Sure, people have called him a lot of things during his career, and he has gone through lots and lots of women in a very public way, but no one has called him a miva. You would think that after his crash and burn from A+ list mostly movie actor to a thank you for the role in a made for tv movie that he would be grateful and treat people he works with well. Not so. When he got a break that rescued him from Lifetime oblivion he responded by treating all the people he worked with like crud and tried to make it clear that the show would fail without him. He was a nice piece to the show, but his head was way bigger than his talent. No one liked him and when the show ended, he was the one cast member who didn't get a going away gift from the crew. That attitude sent him into a second exile until he was given one more chance by another producer who owed the actor a favor from back in the day. The producer put our actor in the middle of a show that was already doing well and our actor immediately took over like he was the star that every viewer came to see even before any of his shows aired. Almost immediately the entire cast and crew were plotting his demise but were thwarted by the producer who owed the favor. Must have been a big favor. With the cast and crew threatening to quit though en masse, the producer finally caved and our actor was shown the door. I bet Tori Spelling could use a new co-star soon.

Rob Lowe

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by Anonymousreply 72August 10, 2023 6:54 PM

What does CDAN have against Rob? Geez.

by Anonymousreply 73August 10, 2023 7:13 PM

[quote] He was fucking Elizabeth Perkins throughout the filming of About Last Night

So what. I'm sure he was fucking every actress he acted with in the '80s.

by Anonymousreply 75August 10, 2023 7:50 PM

[Quote] must be a Gen Z person because network tv has had many great shows that are good tv. Gen Z thinks you need to hear the word fuck every 10 seconds with gratuitous nudity and sex for a show to be good.

You didn't nail it Just not interested in passively watching TV when there are so many other things to do. Prefer to watch a film than follow a TV series. I like thinks that are finite. As an adult The Sopranos was the only show I watched with some regularity. Also, the commercials on network Tv go on forever!

by Anonymousreply 76August 10, 2023 8:03 PM

Network TV is so old fashioned compared to cable and streaming. The censorship is ridiculous. It's of another era.

by Anonymousreply 77August 10, 2023 8:15 PM

CDAN is a right wing site for right wing loons r73.

by Anonymousreply 78August 10, 2023 8:22 PM

[Quote] Stealth Trump thread.

How so R74? and have you worn out the T-R-E-P-U-G-M-A-B-O-I-S keys yet? and why are INCELs so fixated on him?

by Anonymousreply 79August 10, 2023 8:33 PM

OP, you’re entitled to your opinion. However, your thread title and what you wrote doesn’t mesh with what you linked to.

by Anonymousreply 80August 10, 2023 9:25 PM

Thank you, R80. Rob's being unjustly portrayed here.

by Anonymousreply 81August 10, 2023 9:31 PM

Rob doesn't like costars and proud of it.

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by Anonymousreply 82August 10, 2023 9:35 PM

Even though I'm no big fan on Tom Cruise, Lowe is no Cruise. But I liked him on P&R - his weird energy worked with the rest of the cast, so it's a shame he thought he was above it all. He's had a great career and he should be happy about it because he's man pretty, but not great actor & not even an action star like Cruise

by Anonymousreply 84August 10, 2023 9:43 PM

R34 = The “But I KNOW them!” Troll.

by Anonymousreply 85August 10, 2023 10:02 PM

R85, are you always this much of an asshat or did you skip your nap today?

by Anonymousreply 86August 10, 2023 10:06 PM

Why is he crying all of a sudden? Homie must need attention

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by Anonymousreply 87August 11, 2023 10:11 PM

[quote]My understanding is that "The West Wing" was pitched to him as a starring vehicle for Lowe. But, in reality, ended up an ensemble with Martin Sheen the star.

Ginger Grant Syndrome.

by Anonymousreply 88August 11, 2023 10:41 PM

He’s always been a terrible actor. He got by on his looks. He has always been boring to me.

by Anonymousreply 89August 11, 2023 11:50 PM

I feel bad for Melissa Gilbert because I feel like he essentially used her to further (start) his career. Granted they dated for most of the '80s but he also cheated on her through most of that time. What I'm trying to say is that he was way out of her league and the amount of space each devoted to the other in their respective memoirs speaks volumes about how much value they gave their relationship.

by Anonymousreply 90August 11, 2023 11:53 PM

The show is available to stream on MAX

by Anonymousreply 91August 12, 2023 12:02 AM

I have never gotten a good vibe from him.

Massive ego. Mediocre actor.

by Anonymousreply 92August 12, 2023 12:10 AM

OMG! An actor who has an ego!

That's so unusual. Never happens in TV or movies.

by Anonymousreply 93August 12, 2023 12:54 AM

Most actors and actresses are cunts.

by Anonymousreply 94August 12, 2023 1:36 AM

[Quote] What I'm trying to say is that he was way out of her league

No way! R90

by Anonymousreply 95August 12, 2023 3:21 AM

I just watched "St. Elmo's Fire" for the first time since it came out. He sure was pretty in that! But I mainly had eyes for Emilio Estevez and his cute butt.

by Anonymousreply 96August 12, 2023 3:45 AM

He’s never been much of an actor but he’s better at comedy than drama.

Martin Sheen was only supposed to be in a few episodes but the character was so loved by viewers they made him a permanent character and co-lead. His character was far more popular with viewers than Lowe’s.

by Anonymousreply 97August 12, 2023 5:22 AM

[Quote] His character was far more popular with viewers than Lowe’s.

shit happens!

by Anonymousreply 98August 12, 2023 5:40 AM

R98 difference is Fonzie was always a supporting character who became the most popular character.

A more appropriate comparison would be Steve Urkel, who was a guest star only supposed to be in an episode or two but he got such a big reaction from viewers they kept him around and he became the star of the show with time.

by Anonymousreply 99August 12, 2023 5:44 AM

Melissa Gilbert and Rob Lowe is sort of like Jennifer Garner and Ben Affleck.

by Anonymousreply 100August 12, 2023 10:06 PM

He's admitted many times that he was an asshole back then.

I sensed that he grew out of it as Amy Poehler would have never tolerated the slightest ounce of shit on Parks & Rec. He was definitely not the star of that show.

by Anonymousreply 101August 12, 2023 10:20 PM

R101 lmao. Amy and him barely had scenes together because she didn’t like him. He was kept on the show because one of the big producers owed him a big favor from years prior. That’s why he was cast in the role to begin with.

by Anonymousreply 102August 12, 2023 10:23 PM

R56 The West Wing was actually a very good show and not just good for network tv good.

by Anonymousreply 103August 12, 2023 11:20 PM

[quote] OMG! An actor who has an ego! That's so unusual. Never happens in TV or movies.

But usually the ones who do genuinely have some talent.

As far as I can see, Rob's only talent has been that he can do an uncanny impersonation of RJ Wagner.

by Anonymousreply 105August 12, 2023 11:29 PM

[quote] I feel bad for Melissa Gilbert because I feel like he essentially used her to further (start) his career. Granted they dated for most of the '80s but he also cheated on her through most of that time. What I'm trying to say is that he was way out of her league and the amount of space each devoted to the other in their respective memoirs speaks volumes about how much value they gave their relationship.

Melissa Gilbert on her relationship with Rob Lowe...as memorably interpreted by Mario Cantone (who gets down the voices of Melissa, Rob, and Warren Beatty nearly exactly).

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by Anonymousreply 106August 12, 2023 11:32 PM

R104, can't remember her name, can you?

by Anonymousreply 107August 13, 2023 2:50 PM

Most of those West Wingers came across as potential divas to me. And I never liked the stilted dialogue on that show. "I serve at the pleasure of the president" my ass.

by Anonymousreply 108August 13, 2023 2:58 PM

Those West Wingers are all seriously gifted actors, as were many of their guest stars. (I'm looking at you, Lord John Marbury)

The dialogue was a feature, honey, not a bug.

by Anonymousreply 109August 13, 2023 3:07 PM

Martin Sheen's self-satisfied turn as the President on THE WEST WING has to be one of the most overrated performances in TV history.

by Anonymousreply 110August 13, 2023 3:07 PM

Typical AA egomaniac. The cult sure does appeal to narcissists. AA is comprised of narcissistic abusers and their victims .

by Anonymousreply 112August 13, 2023 3:12 PM

That's quite a counter-argument, R111!

To me, Sheen preened like crazy, delivering Sorkin's lines as if they'd been handed down on Mount Sinai, which is the last thing that stuff needs. Your mileage obviously varies, and God knows you're in the majority on this one.

by Anonymousreply 113August 13, 2023 3:14 PM

I know 'stars', most are insecure, nice people. One is very secure in himself that he doesn't feel the need to perform when people approach him. They get the real him. He's great to those who count in his life, truly great, and always a friendly guy. But I've seen comments online that he's not the friendliest when people meet him. He just doesn't pretend, in that few moments of the encounter, to turn up the fakeness, and I've seen people visibly shocked. They might turn to me and say, oh he's a real Star isn't he...and toff their nose. He could so easily fake it and pretend but he's just himself, and realised years ago he can't give energy constantly to 'fans'. He's always pleasant, but realised years ago that the more pleasant he is, the more people stay around and don't move on after he's cheated to them. One time, after he was dismissive of this guy, I asked him if it wouldn't have been easier to just charm the guy for that few moments. Then he told me "that's his 3rd time to come over to me"...because he'd been nice to the guy, they guy didnt keep boundaries. So, unless u meet a 'star' a few times, in proper situations, u have no idea what they are like and its wrong to dis them.

by Anonymousreply 115August 13, 2023 3:25 PM

[QUOTE] He's always pleasant, but realised years ago that the more pleasant he is, the more people stay around and don't move on after he's cheated to them.

Again, this time in standard English, please.

by Anonymousreply 116August 13, 2023 3:45 PM

Rob is still bitter that I got “Ordinary People” over him, and won Oscar Gold for it

by Anonymousreply 117August 13, 2023 3:53 PM

I heard the same podcast as R63, but a different episode. I doubt anyone has heard more than one, because it's so obnoxious. Anyway, the one I downloaded was because Aaron Sorkin, who was the undisputed star of TWW, kindly agreed to be the guest. I say kindly because of all the rumors about Lowe's behaviour on TWW and how he came to be written out.

Rob Lowe asked a question and then talked over the top of the answer practically every time. I learned nothing about Sorkin but a lot about Lowe, and none of it good.

by Anonymousreply 118August 13, 2023 4:15 PM

BTW, R77, censorship was hardly an issue for a show set in the West Wing of the White House. You think in real life the President's senior staff spend a lot of time at work swearing and running naked through the corridors?

by Anonymousreply 119August 13, 2023 4:19 PM

If the question here is how Lowe can he go, the answer is very low.

by Anonymousreply 120August 13, 2023 5:38 PM

He gave the impression that he had the most charmed life

by Anonymousreply 121August 13, 2023 5:55 PM

[quote] OMG! An actor who has an ego! That's so unusual. Never happens in TV or movies.

[quote] But usually the ones who do genuinely have some talent.

I seriously doubt this. I suspect there is very little correlation between ego and talent actually. In fact, the less talent you have, the more you probably require ego to get through the whole damn process of actually getting a role.

by Anonymousreply 122August 13, 2023 6:14 PM

No one ever mentions how he gave the other guy a quick suck in the video.

by Anonymousreply 123August 13, 2023 6:16 PM

[quote]R102: Amy and him barely....

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 124August 13, 2023 6:18 PM

[quote] He is also very vain

A vain pretty boy actor. No way, Jose!

by Anonymousreply 125August 13, 2023 6:33 PM

While it's true that in 2023 society has loosened up considerably on sex tapes, it's gone in entirely the other direction when it comes to adults hooking up with teenagers. He'd be cancelled instantly today.

by Anonymousreply 127August 13, 2023 6:41 PM

[quote] Demi Moore and him were fucking in real life while shooting About Last Night.

Some bitch on here once posted a thread with Demi Moore's hairy beaver plastered at OP, and I still have PTSD from it! BTW, is there anyone Demi hasn't slept with?

by Anonymousreply 128August 13, 2023 6:50 PM

He is still super hot!

And he's made very good real estate investments

by Anonymousreply 129August 13, 2023 7:12 PM

[quote] He is still super hot!

[quote] And he's made very good real estate investments

What are you? Some yenta matchmaker?

by Anonymousreply 130August 13, 2023 7:15 PM

R128, she used to do a double-hooker act with her mother, seriously. Therefore my guess would be no, there is probably no one that Demi hasn't or wouldn't fuck.

by Anonymousreply 131August 13, 2023 7:43 PM

[quote]While it's true that in 2023 society has loosened up considerably on sex tapes, it's gone in entirely the other direction when it comes to adults hooking up with teenagers. He'd be cancelled instantly today.

Absolutely. Even though the 16 year old girl was in a 21 and over club with a fake ID and Rob Lowe had absolutely no idea what her real age was, it wouldn't matter today. He'd still be canceled in two minutes.

Remember back in the early 90s when Jerry Seinfeld, who was around 40 at the time, was dating that 16/17 year old girl who was still in high school? Imagine the shitstorm that would be today.

by Anonymousreply 132August 13, 2023 8:40 PM

Big Tits Shoshonna! (was it Lonstein?) I remember her, R132. She was 17 and he met her hanging out with her friends after school in Central Park or something sort of sleazy like that.

She went on to have a bathing suit line for women with enormous tits, maybe other clothing as well but I remember it as bathing suits for big tits.

by Anonymousreply 133August 13, 2023 9:02 PM

A 40 year-old man going up to a bunch of teen girls in the park, all pervy and shit. JFC. Seinfeld would've been arrested for that if it happened today.

by Anonymousreply 134August 13, 2023 9:09 PM

You all keep bringing up the 90s, imagine the 70s. Things were crazy in the 70s. It was actually no big deal for an adult to be fucking a teenager back then.

by Anonymousreply 135August 13, 2023 10:08 PM

R128/r131 - Wasn't she rumored to have slept with a young teen actor when she was on General Hospital? There's a video of her at a cast party and she was on him.

by Anonymousreply 136August 13, 2023 10:19 PM

R136 yes, I think he was 15.

She supposedly slept with every guy in the Brat Pack minus James Spader, who had zero interest in her. She also fucked her way up in Hollywood.

by Anonymousreply 137August 13, 2023 10:21 PM

Demi Moore's ginormous bush. Yes, this is real and not photoshopped. Look at your own risk.

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by Anonymousreply 138August 13, 2023 10:25 PM

Oh my god, R138, does she have some kind of glandular or hormonal problem?

Was she unable to use scissors or wax?

That can't be normal.

by Anonymousreply 139August 13, 2023 10:48 PM

Bet it's fake. They're really good these days.

by Anonymousreply 140August 13, 2023 10:54 PM

I need to go back and see what I was watching instead of the must-see shows I've never seen.

by Anonymousreply 141August 13, 2023 10:57 PM

A coworker loves giant bush like that.

by Anonymousreply 142August 13, 2023 11:09 PM

R138, that's child's play, you should've seen Joyce DeWitt's.. But the reality is back in the '70s every gal's lady garden was the size of a slice of New York pizza.

by Anonymousreply 143August 13, 2023 11:11 PM

R143, damn. Did they require an entire team of Mexican mow-and-blow guys to landscape down there?

by Anonymousreply 144August 13, 2023 11:18 PM

r140 it's not fake. Demi Moore posed for a men's magazine (Hustler?) in the early 80s and that's the actual photo that was in the magazine.

by Anonymousreply 145August 13, 2023 11:20 PM

R144, says the queen who loves hairy , smelly assholes .

by Anonymousreply 147August 14, 2023 3:23 AM

R147 = Demi Moore on her 5th cosmo!

by Anonymousreply 148August 14, 2023 3:36 AM

I get a lot of hot straight cock you jealous fairy

by Anonymousreply 149August 14, 2023 3:45 AM

Not anymore you don't. ^^

by Anonymousreply 150August 14, 2023 3:47 AM

[QUOTE]I feel bad for Melissa Gilbert because I feel like he essentially used her to further (start) his career... ...What I'm trying to say is that he was way out of her league

R90 - What's so fascinating about this is that he's been married to his homely makeup artist wife for over 30 years. IMO, Melissa was/is much more attractive. Wasn't there some mini-scandal about the wife coming on to or sexually harassing an employee(s) at their Montecito estate?

Poor Melissa. The bookends in her romantic life are the vain, disloyal cheater Rob Lowe and alleged sexual abuser and recognized garden gnome, Timothy Busfield.

by Anonymousreply 151August 14, 2023 5:16 AM

Melissa came across as nothing short of pathetic in regards to her relationship with Lowe.

by Anonymousreply 152August 14, 2023 5:34 AM

I don't dislike Rob Lowe. But if there was ever a definition of a pretty face and a beautiful body with nothing much attached...

His peer group includes Patrick Swayze, Ralph Macchio, Tom Cruise, Judd Nelson, Charlie Sheen, James Spader, Robert Downey Jr., Anthony Michael Hall, Johnny Depp, Andrew McCarthy, Matthew Broderick, Kiefer Sutherland, Michael J. Fox, Matt Dillon. Most of whom happen to also be deranged dipshits but all of whom put in more interesting performances in more interesting movies.

by Anonymousreply 153August 14, 2023 5:49 AM

He married a plain looking woman and his sons got her looks

by Anonymousreply 154August 14, 2023 5:54 AM

His wife looks a lot like the trashy looking actress who played his townie wife in “St Elmo’s Fire.”

Coincidence?

by Anonymousreply 155August 14, 2023 5:58 AM

I'd never seen./heard anything about Amy Poehler not liking him.

by Anonymousreply 156August 14, 2023 6:08 AM

Rob Lowe's fug wife hit the husband PowerBall. I could never understand the pairing and I don't understand it to this day. The fact that he actually seems into her just blows my total mind. She must have an amazing personality.

by Anonymousreply 157August 14, 2023 6:22 AM

He's not that into her. He cheated on her with the nanny and got sued over it. The wife probably babies him and puts up with his shit in a way most other women won't.

by Anonymousreply 158August 14, 2023 6:24 AM

As best I can figure from his books and podcast, his wife is kind of a blue collar gal from the valley. No education, no ambition, 80s party gal. She gives him someone to feel superior to, which all narcissists need.

by Anonymousreply 159August 14, 2023 6:26 AM

He seems rather socially clueless in his podcast at times.

by Anonymousreply 160August 14, 2023 7:04 AM

I wonder if his sons watched his sex tape.

If my dad looked like Rob Lowe, I'd be curious.

My actual dad, no way.

by Anonymousreply 161August 14, 2023 7:13 AM

By her own recounting of their relationship, Melissa seems to have been a barely-tolerated stalker of Rob's. They met when she saw him next to her at a stop light and called out "Hey, aren't you Rob Lowe?!?" (This is while she was still the star of a long-running top 40 primetime network TV show.) Then she kept checking up on him because he screwed around so much, even flying to the location of Hotel New Hampshire so she could catch him schtupping Nastassja Kinski. Then he rescinded his marriage proposal to her. This whole time she just keeps forgiving and forgetting, because theirs is such a special, once-in-a-lifetime love. She must have zero self-esteem.

by Anonymousreply 162August 14, 2023 1:21 PM

Why did Rob ask her to marry him if she was such a nothing to him, R162? I know it sounds like there's snark in the question but I'm serious. Seems just as lame on his part to get engaged to a woman he didn't respect than on hers for tolerating his chronic philandering.

by Anonymousreply 163August 14, 2023 2:54 PM

If I recall correctly, he proposed when she became pregnant, R163.

by Anonymousreply 164August 14, 2023 2:57 PM

Another poster explained that he had previously proposed and then rescinded that proposal when she became pregnant, R164. Which is stunningly awful.

by Anonymousreply 165August 14, 2023 2:59 PM

Just wanna say, I met Rob Lowe when he was campaigning for Dukakis in 1988. In person, he looked fantastic. And he was really nice to us peons who were the worker bees on the campaign. I will always be a fan. Now as far as West Wing, I do believe Martin Sheen got carried away with his role as POTUS at times and could often be insufferable.

by Anonymousreply 166August 14, 2023 3:17 PM

He was recently interviewed on the Two Bears in a Cave podcast. They googled RL’s net worth and conversed that the internet always underestimates celebrities net worth. If accurate, he’s worth well over $100 million.

by Anonymousreply 167August 14, 2023 9:20 PM

He just sold his Montecito house (the one near Harry) for $45.5 million. That's just one piece of Lowe's considerable real estate portfolio. He's easily worth over $100 million.

Speaking of Harry - he lives close enough to the Lowe's former abode to infamously "borrow" Lowe's tennis court. Harry's house is only worth $14.5 million, it's practically a shack in that neighborhood. Where they live, the Harkles are the poors.

by Anonymousreply 168August 14, 2023 9:53 PM

I didn't know Lowe had a podcast. He should interview Harry. Not often a podcaster can score royalty for their show.

by Anonymousreply 169August 14, 2023 10:06 PM

I wish that cock pic of Rob was clearer. He was gorgeous

by Anonymousreply 170August 14, 2023 10:13 PM

The rumor is that Harry had a falling out with the Lowe's and I doubt that Rob would ever invite him on his podcast. He certainly never invited him to go hunting for Bigfoot when he was making that show.

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by Anonymousreply 171August 14, 2023 10:14 PM

What on earth did they have a falling out about? Trees blocking a view?

by Anonymousreply 172August 14, 2023 10:23 PM

I don't remember, R172, if I ever actually knew what it was about it's long gone.

It may have had to do with "borrowing" the Lowe's tennis court but I'm just guessing now.

by Anonymousreply 173August 14, 2023 10:36 PM

I watched the Mario Cantone dramatic reading at R106 of "Praire Tale" (Melissa' autobiography - the portion where she finds out Rob has been cheating on her with Nastassla Kinski. Melissa immediately jumps on a plane to Montreal to confront Rob (who's on location with Kinski).

Melissa then reaches out to Warren Beatty, who offers some calm and sage advice.

by Anonymousreply 174August 14, 2023 11:37 PM

[quote]Harry's house is only worth $14.5 million, it's practically a shack in that neighborhood. Where they live, the Harkles are the poors.

To quote Fran Lebowitz: "Montecito makes Beverly Hills look like Detroit."

by Anonymousreply 175August 14, 2023 11:50 PM

R174, his cheating with Kinski had to hurt as back in the day, Nastassia was otherworldly gorgeous, though crazy as a craphouse rat. I do love the fact that she was Rashida Jones' stepmother for a time and mother of Rashida's half-sister, Kenya.

by Anonymousreply 176August 15, 2023 1:14 AM

I feel somewhat sorry for Melissa, she didn’t have a normal childhood so she probably didn’t pick up on the social cues we normally pick up on in school. She was the family breadwinner by the age of seven or so, and worked long days on set, and was expected to work and act like an adult, not a child.

by Anonymousreply 177August 15, 2023 1:23 AM

R164 incorrect. Idiot. This was already discussed upthread stupid ass.

He broke off the engagement when he found out she was pregnant. He didn’t propose because of it. Jesus. So fucking stupid.

by Anonymousreply 178August 15, 2023 1:23 AM

Typical of actors who grew up in front of the camera.

by Anonymousreply 179August 15, 2023 1:33 AM

r123

he did? where in the vid is that?

by Anonymousreply 180August 15, 2023 3:55 PM

The other guy is rumored to have been Robert Rusler, who was a one-time cuddle-buddy of RDJ back in the day (or so additional rumor has it).

by Anonymousreply 181August 15, 2023 7:23 PM

OP the truth is we're all divas

by Anonymousreply 182August 15, 2023 9:21 PM

I just wish the tape was clearer. You can barely see Rob's bone

by Anonymousreply 183August 15, 2023 9:59 PM

Fucking 80s VHS was such shit quality. Too bad the sex tape isn't clearer.

by Anonymousreply 184August 17, 2023 4:25 AM

The Lowe point of his career

by Anonymousreply 185August 18, 2023 2:37 PM

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