No one care OP, not even the elders.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | January 25, 2014 4:37 PM |
Patty Duke is legally insane and she admits such. So she lies all the time and starts fires too. Lucille Ball was a drunk so she isn't very reliable either.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | January 25, 2014 5:16 PM |
sorry r1 but I care and no I am not the Patty Duke Troll.. OP it was big news they and of course Desi were on the front pages of all the gossip magazines. IN 1970-1971 there were at least 5 or not more what was know as movie magazines, filled with all the gossip that in the days before were never printed b/c the studios would stop them. With the end of the studio system, these magazines went fill with stories. Some that I remember are Photoplay, Screen Stories, Silver Screen, TV Radio Mirror... You have to remember this was 1970-71 and these were famous people playing out their lives in public. The scandal was that PD was 23 Desi was 17 (still a minor) and Lucy was well known for her privacy. So here is PD and Desi running all over town. But I guess it really became BIG when Patty became pregnant and the magazines decided that Desi Jr was the dad and neither Patty nor Desi denied it. This of course threw Ball into a tizzy and it was front page gossip magazine fodder. After Desi and Patty split and she married John Astin things calmed down and it was over. Supposedly Patty and Lucy made up and Patty even said that if she was in the same place as Lucy was with her underage son bring home a divorced older woman who the gossip magazines were running after, she too would have been upset. See link for how big it really was...
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 3 | January 25, 2014 9:52 PM |
I love you, Miss Eglantine at R2.
That feud must have been made in Gossip Rag Heaven. One of Hollywood's hottest young messes going up against an old battle-ax who was a living legend over an under-age stud muffin. Hedda Hopper must have been spinning in her grave.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | January 27, 2014 4:31 AM |
Followed up with Desi's romance with Liza Minnelli. I believe they were even engaged for a while. Lucy liked Liza, but said she was too old and too talented for Desi (or supposed said).
by Anonymous | reply 6 | January 27, 2014 4:50 AM |
WTF? Lucy loved Liza and said so. He main complaint at the time was how much she disapproved of Lucie "dating" female impersonator Jim Bailey.
Lucy did NOT make up with Patty Duke. Not ever.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | January 27, 2014 4:56 AM |
I laughed a lot with this thread. Buahaha!
by Anonymous | reply 8 | January 27, 2014 5:10 AM |
R8 and you know that Patty and Lucy never made up for a fact. That's you make it in your statement
by Anonymous | reply 9 | January 27, 2014 1:00 PM |
I'd never heard all this before, and it's terrific! Patty was dating Desi Jr., then John Astin. When she became pregnant, she quickly married a rock promoter named Michael Tell so the baby wouldn't be born out of wedlock. That marriage only lasted 13 days, though -- and for years she said she didn't know whether Astin or Desi was the father of her son Sean.
Turned out, the father was Michael Tell all along!
by Anonymous | reply 10 | January 27, 2014 1:14 PM |
actually it was LUCY who Patty Duke wanted to date... but Gary Marshall talked her out of it.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | January 27, 2014 2:07 PM |
[quote]Patty Duke is legally insane and she admits such. So she lies all the time and starts fires too. Lucille Ball was a drunk so she isn't very reliable either.
That was mean, and very funny.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | January 27, 2014 4:33 PM |
Crowds would mass in the streets outside of the PHOTOPLAY and MODERN SCREEN offices, waiting for the latest issue.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 13 | January 27, 2014 4:48 PM |
Shouldn't it be Patty DUTCHESS???
by Anonymous | reply 16 | January 27, 2014 5:20 PM |
Didn't Ann Sothern play the duchess?
by Anonymous | reply 17 | January 27, 2014 5:21 PM |
R10, is English your first language?
by Anonymous | reply 18 | January 27, 2014 7:53 PM |
R18 It was the COUNTESS Framboise.
[quote]but Gary Marshall talked her out of it.
Who the the hell brought Gary (actually GARRY) Marshall into this? Did you mean Gary MORTON?
by Anonymous | reply 19 | January 27, 2014 7:58 PM |
Wow. Love those magazine covers. Patty was so pretty.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | January 27, 2014 8:23 PM |
R21 that's why Desi Jr. and Patty Duke made a very hot couple and the tabloids were all over it
by Anonymous | reply 21 | January 28, 2014 1:33 AM |
I want to know more about this headline from r16's cover:
"Ryan O'Neal dumps Barbra Streisand for black actress!"
Do tell.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | January 28, 2014 1:42 AM |
I think it was supposed to be Diana Ross I'm not sure
by Anonymous | reply 23 | January 28, 2014 1:50 AM |
Hadn't Desi Jr already knocked up some girl when he was 15? Why was Lucy so certain that Patty Duke was lying about her baby?
by Anonymous | reply 25 | January 28, 2014 3:30 AM |
So Lucy was basically an alkie for how long in her career?
I always thought her performances tiresomely hammy and unfunny so this explains a lot in terms of not being able to assess herself.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | January 28, 2014 3:37 AM |
By the time Patty published her autobiography in 1987, she and Lucy had NOT made up. She seems very bitter towards Lucy in the book. I have never heard they had buried the hatchet...they were both too strong-willed for that.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | January 28, 2014 3:41 AM |
But I thought Desi Arnaz Jr wanted me.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | January 28, 2014 3:49 AM |
Don't remember the interview or why but Duke said that years later Her n Lucy did indeed make up. I know that Duke n Desi n even Lucie are all friendly with each other, in some fashion.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | January 28, 2014 3:53 AM |
R30 and that was 11 years after the whole scandal. I wonder if Desi Junior stepped on Patty Duke's lines on purpose lol
by Anonymous | reply 31 | January 28, 2014 4:43 AM |
R26 the Ball n Arnez family didn't recognize the girl he knocked up at 15. it wasn't until many years later they maybe after Lucy death that desi recognize his daughter as his own.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | January 28, 2014 4:48 AM |
Sean Astin says he feels lucky he has 3 dads: the biological one; John Astin; and Desi.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | January 28, 2014 4:50 AM |
four dads the step father that Patty been married to now for the past 20 something years
by Anonymous | reply 34 | January 28, 2014 5:04 AM |
R23, Ryan was never really Bab's bf. unless you count him seeing a dozen other women when he was seeing her.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | January 28, 2014 4:51 PM |
I have several Lucy/Desilu books. The general theme is that Lucy was very upset over this. Patty in her book hints that the baby was Desi's. She also tells of shocking abuse by both male and female managers, on top of her mental problems. I thought to this day the boy's parentage was uncertain, both Desi and John (Mr. Aadams) are dark haired and complexioned.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | January 28, 2014 5:04 PM |
R37 Sean Astin ran into this girl who said to him, I think we're cousin, she was Mike Tell's niece. so he went and had a blood test DNA and it proved that Michael Tell is his father. Mike was Patty's second husband
by Anonymous | reply 37 | January 28, 2014 9:59 PM |
Buy Call Me Anna, you cheap whore. It's all in there.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | January 28, 2014 10:00 PM |
None of this ever happened.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | January 28, 2014 10:04 PM |
R39 a lot of the stuff in that book is no longer true. case in point in the book she says John astin is the father in reality Michael Tell is the father
by Anonymous | reply 40 | January 28, 2014 10:04 PM |
[quote] Lucy did NOT make up with Patty Duke. Not ever.
Not hard to believe. That cunt probably held a grudge like it was an oxygen mask.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | January 28, 2014 10:04 PM |
Soooo, Patty was gettin it on at the age of 23, with THREE men at once? What a slut...
I knew there was a reason I loved her...
by Anonymous | reply 42 | January 28, 2014 10:05 PM |
Lucy was just jealous that she wasn't hip enough anymore to SPARKLE LUCY SPARKLE.
She was too busy being free:
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 44 | January 29, 2014 1:15 AM |
Hold on a second - my biggest question has been raised by one of the covers of TV RADIO MIRROR at r4's link, the one with the HUSBAND FIGHTS LUCILLE BALL'S SON headline.
At the bottom is a headline that says SECRET CEREMONY! HOMOSEXUAL WEDDING BETWEEN, but then the subscription label cuts off the end of it so we can't see if they named a name. Who was it?? Were these magazines outing certain celebrities in the '70s?
by Anonymous | reply 45 | January 29, 2014 1:16 AM |
r46 It was probably Rock Hudson and Jim Nabors. That was a big story that went down but who knows..
by Anonymous | reply 46 | January 29, 2014 1:18 AM |
Rona Barrett always had the best magazines and gossip!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 49 | January 31, 2014 1:24 AM |
Can anyone read the Carol Burnett headline at r50's link? I can't make it out.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | February 2, 2014 7:35 AM |
R46, the magazine is TV Radio Mirror, June 1971, and the full headline is "Secret Ceremony! Homosexual Wedding Between TV & Movie Star." Apparently the article didn't name names but said "Their names are known in every household in America," and went on to talk about how common this was in Hollywood and how gays would be asking for the legal right to marry any day now.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | February 2, 2014 10:54 AM |
see link for another scandalous cover
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 53 | February 3, 2014 4:04 AM |
WHY LUCY AND DESI ARE CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 54 | February 3, 2014 4:10 AM |
MY MISTRESS OR MY MOTHER?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 55 | February 3, 2014 4:11 AM |
more cover stories please lol
by Anonymous | reply 56 | February 3, 2014 4:37 AM |
I heard about the supposed Jim Nabors-Rock Hudson wedding sometime between 1961 & 1963, when Desi would have been eight-ten years old.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | February 6, 2014 1:23 AM |
The Rock-Jim Nabors marriage was 1971 not 1961, r60. Desi was a womanizer. NOT gay or bi, wishful thinkers.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | February 6, 2014 3:04 AM |
Desi Jr. was just on "Fantasy Island" last Sunday on COZI TV. He got engaged to Marcia Brady!
by Anonymous | reply 60 | February 6, 2014 6:11 PM |
It all started when Lucy caught Patty face down in Vivians' vance.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | February 6, 2014 9:48 PM |
that's it for the covers no more my gossip magazine covers?
by Anonymous | reply 62 | February 8, 2014 4:59 AM |
Gosh I remember this stuff. It was delicious. Around that time too was the Elvis/Priscilla/Elvis' latest whore thing too. Priscilla was still beautiful with dark hair, that light hair looked like shit on her, still does.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | February 8, 2014 5:22 AM |
R61: you are wrong. As I posted earlier, I heard the rumor first in the early 1960s.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | February 8, 2014 5:45 AM |
THE BABY IS MINE NOT YOURS!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 67 | February 9, 2014 3:14 PM |
I'VE FOUND A NEW DADDY FOR MY SON!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 68 | February 9, 2014 3:23 PM |
HOW LUCILLE BALL DEFEATED HER!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 69 | February 9, 2014 3:24 PM |
OSCAR WINNER TO UNWED MOTHER!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 70 | February 9, 2014 3:27 PM |
Rock Hudson in Pretty Maids All in a Row!
by Anonymous | reply 72 | February 9, 2014 3:37 PM |
Patty talks about the tabloids attention she got at that time at the video below.
Go to 2:00 in at the video
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 75 | February 13, 2014 9:44 PM |
Those old movie mags were the best. I loved the obvious photo doctoring on the covers.
For some reason I remember this headline from [italic]Modern Screen[/italic] or somesuch around the time that [italic]Donny and Marie[/italic] was a hot TV show:
[bold]MARIE OSMOND DAMNED BY THE MORMON CHURCH![/bold]
by Anonymous | reply 76 | February 13, 2014 9:57 PM |
Gawd, and those headlines on those old 60s, 70s move magaZines were so funny: "WHAT BARBARA PARKINS WILL DO IN BED THAT MIA WON'T !" ..... "LIZ RAGES AGAINST DICK !" ..... "WHO'S OUR DADDY THIS WEEK ? LIZ' CHILDREN UNANSWERED PLEAS" .... "WILL JACKIE GO GREEK FOR ONASSIS ?"
by Anonymous | reply 77 | February 13, 2014 10:15 PM |
r79 I watched all the parts what a wonderful interview.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | February 14, 2014 1:28 AM |
Is that Ricky's big uncut Cuban cigar at r2's link?
by Anonymous | reply 87 | February 18, 2014 10:46 PM |
In that interview with Patty Duke in 1981 linked here, she says she thinks the tabloids print lies, all lies.
But, they weren't lying. She was bed hopping with her husband/Desi/Astin.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | February 18, 2014 11:12 PM |
I love these old magazine covers.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | February 28, 2014 3:16 AM |
No one knows, OP, it was all on the QT. Very hush-hush. On the down-loan.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | December 12, 2014 11:58 PM |
Are you guys talking about Lucille Testacle?
by Anonymous | reply 100 | April 12, 2015 12:44 AM |
Patty's dream of dreams was to become Mrs. Desi Arnaz, Jr.! She wrote about it in her diary.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | April 13, 2015 2:47 AM |
R102 true dat. I wonder if they married wud they still be together?
by Anonymous | reply 103 | April 13, 2015 2:55 AM |
Patty Duke's Emmy speech is the greatest thing ever done!!!!!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 109 | April 22, 2015 5:07 AM |
Poor Patty, she was seriously mentally ill and everyone thought she was just a low down drug addict.
BTW, Patty deserved better than Desi Jr. and the hell of Lucy as a MIL.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | July 4, 2015 9:59 PM |
Not only did Patty have a serious mental illness, she lived the horrific life of a child actor. Repeatedly molested. Total control by the studio. I think I remember reading that when she went to her mother's funeral, she had to go as "Patty."
She suffered for many years with untreated mental illness. Cut her some slack. If you are interested in learning more about mental illness, go to nami.org
by Anonymous | reply 113 | July 5, 2015 8:48 AM |
R109 is that Desi Jr. sitting next to her (on her right)? It looks like he's going in for a congratulatory kiss after her name is announced as the winner, but she gives him the cold shoulder. haha
by Anonymous | reply 114 | March 23, 2017 8:07 PM |
Patti's undercarriage always smelled vaguely of vomit
by Anonymous | reply 115 | March 23, 2017 8:12 PM |
Lucy and Patti and Desi Jr. had big blue eyes.
by Anonymous | reply 116 | August 18, 2018 4:58 AM |
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